Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/01/2000 03:34 PM House L&C

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HB 369 - PROPERTY EXEMPTIONS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG  announced that the next item  of business would                                                              
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 369,  "An Act  relating to property  exemptions                                                              
under the  Alaska Exemptions Act;  and providing for  an effective                                                              
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0508                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  MANLY, Staff  to Representative  John  Harris, Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,  introduced HB  369  on behalf  of the  sponsor.   He                                                              
explained  that HB  369  makes changes  to  Title  9, Chapter  38,                                                              
commonly  called   the  Alaska  Exemptions  Statute.     The  bill                                                              
increases  the  dollar  amounts   of  specified  assets  that  are                                                              
currently  in the  statute  and provides  some  new protection  to                                                              
assets  that  currently are  not  covered.   The  current  statute                                                              
specifies what assets  are protected from creditors  when a person                                                              
loses a lawsuit  and has a judgment entered against  him.  It also                                                              
applies in  those cases  of bankruptcy in  which the  person going                                                              
bankrupt  chooses  to  take  the state  rather  than  the  federal                                                              
exemptions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MANLY  said HB 369  will increase  the homestead  exemption to                                                              
$250,000 per individual.   It would also increase  to $250,000 the                                                              
exemption  for  the cash  value  of  a life  insurance  policy  or                                                              
annuity  contract which  is  owed to  the  individual seeking  the                                                              
exemption.  It provides an unlimited  exemption on the proceeds or                                                              
a life insurance  contract or annuity  paid to a beneficiary.   It                                                              
also increases  from six months to  two years the time  allowed to                                                              
trace assets.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MANLY described  the new provisions that HB  369 is proposing.                                                              
One  is to  protect  the reserves  that  are kept  by  condominium                                                              
associations, such as dues that have  been paid and are designated                                                              
for  upkeep of  the property.   The  bill  also protects  deferred                                                              
compensation plans, provides a very  limited cash and liquid asset                                                              
exemption of up  to $8,075, and changes how some  revocable trusts                                                              
are treated.   It also makes some  changes to how indexing  of the                                                              
exemption  would be  figured over  each  year in  relation to  the                                                              
Consumer Price Index (CPI).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0675                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   BRICE   asked   when  the   $5,400   number   was                                                              
established.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MANLY  said he  thinks it was  in 1982, and  that it  has been                                                              
updated two or three times since.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked who brought this bill forward.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MANLY  said some trust  attorneys asked Representative  Harris                                                              
to introduce it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0732                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEPHEN GREER,  Attorney, said HB  369 originated about  two years                                                              
ago, following a fire that caused  a devastating financial loss to                                                              
a  complex that  has hundreds  of units.   Some  tenants who  were                                                              
renting units sued the condominium  association.  Fortunately, the                                                              
judgment was less  than the amount of the  association's insurance                                                              
coverage.  Had   it  not  been   less,  all  of   the  condominium                                                              
association's reserves  could have been depleted,  and hundreds of                                                              
people could have  been dispossessed of their  units because there                                                              
would  have been  no money  to pay utility  bills  and to pay  for                                                              
future maintenance and repairs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREER said  an exemption  signifies  that there  is a  public                                                              
policy decision behind an individual's  right to keep a particular                                                              
asset.   For example, in  the condominium  case, there would  be a                                                              
public  policy  decision  behind  letting  dues be  used  for  the                                                              
purposes  for which  they were  intended.   HB  369 also  includes                                                              
exemptions  not presently  contemplated  by  the current  statute,                                                              
such  as deferred  compensation  plans for  government  employees,                                                              
plans which  are not now exempted  despite the fact that  they are                                                              
comparable to a 401K plan in the  private sector, which is exempt.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0893                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS MILLER, Chief, Research Section,  Division of Administrative                                                              
Services, Department  of Labor and Workforce  Development (DOLWD),                                                              
concurred with  reservations expressed  by Chairman Rokeberg.   He                                                              
recommended using  the United States  all-city CPI instead  of the                                                              
Anchorage CPI, as specified by HB  369. The United States all-city                                                              
average is  calculated monthly rather  than just semi-annually, he                                                              
noted; it includes more data points and is less volatile.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1090                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BRICE asked if  the DOLWD  had any other  concerns                                                              
about HB 369.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLER  said  DOLWD  has  technical  concerns  regarding  the                                                              
inflation index.   One is that there  is no January CPI  index for                                                              
Anchorage, as is specified in the  bill.  Second, DOLWD recommends                                                              
using the  full inflation factor  throughout the  calculations and                                                              
rounding it only at the end.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1169                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI  asked Mr.  Greer  whether  most of  the                                                              
exemptions in HB 369 mirror federal ones.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREER  said some  do.   The insurance  exemption is  more than                                                              
what the federal government would  allow.  The homestead exemption                                                              
matches  the  one in  a  bill  now  before  the federal  House  of                                                              
Representatives.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI  asked  how  much of  a  life  insurance                                                              
exemption the federal government currently allows.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREER said  the federal  government allows  a life  insurance                                                              
cash value of $8,625, so Alaska's  present statute is generally in                                                              
line with  federal bankruptcy exemptions.   He went on  to explain                                                              
that there  is nothing  in Alaska's  current law  to protect  life                                                              
insurance beneficiaries  from the policy owner's  creditors.  Most                                                              
states offer that protection.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1352                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI expressed  concern  about the  unlimited                                                              
protection  proposed  for a  condominium  homeowners  association.                                                              
She wondered  if a homeowners  association might contrive  to take                                                              
advantage of that.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREER  said he doesn't think  there is any potential  for that                                                              
happening.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG  asked Mr. Greer  if he had talked  with someone                                                              
who represents the condominium community associations.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREER said  the associations wonder how they  can collect dues                                                              
from a member protected by the $8,075 cash exemption.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  ROKEBERG said  that is  a  separate issue.   [There  was                                                              
concurrence by committee members.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[CHAIRMAN  ROKEBERG  and  Mr. Greer  then  discussed  whether  the                                                              
exemptions included  in HB 369 might affect alimony  claims, child                                                              
support, or divorce settlements.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREER  said none  of  those  would  be affected  because  the                                                              
exemptions  protect   the  joint   interest  from  a   third-party                                                              
creditor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG  asked Representative Harris to  work with DOLWD                                                              
on  the department's  suggested technical  changes,  and to  bring                                                              
those recommendations to the next  committee of purview, the House                                                              
Judiciary Committee.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1654                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  made  a  motion  to move  HB  369  out  of                                                              
committee with  individual recommendations  and the  attached zero                                                              
fiscal note.   There being no objection,  HB 369 was moved  out of                                                              
the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                

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